One of the activities we do is help out with international adoptions from Chile.
What?
Yes, we are officially recognised by certain governments to help the international adoption process run as smoothly as possible for foreigners adopting children in Chile.
What does that mean?
We accompany them the entire time they are in Chile (which can be anywhere between 5 and 12 weeks), making sure they don’t get ripped off, run over or eaten by a herd of rampaging llamas.
Since the couples usually have no Spanish, we help with the translations with officialdom (and normal streetdom too) and are there for the first encounter with their child/children (yes, some parents adopt two (or more) brothers and sisters at a time). We are observers, there for them during the first and subsequent days with the child and helping them out whenever we think something needs to be mentioned, translated or done. We are there for the big day(s) at court to get the official papers and also after with all the fun paperwork and bureaucracy that ensues until they are finally in their home country.
What do we get out of it?
The incredibly rewarding experience of knowing we are making an amazingly positive change and difference to a child’s life, but that credit should actually go to the adoptive parents and Sename, not us.
Many of the kids being offered into adoption (though not all) have either been neglected, abandoned OR fortunately been taken away from their “complicated” home (those that disagree and say they shouldn’t be removed from their first home are usually people who have no real idea of what went on in the child’s hard life, so don’t give me that fancy oh-we-can-make-it-happen crap). When you add in a couple of drug-addict parents who think a crack buzz is more important than milk for the child, or that they are fun as a punching bag or for any other despicable reasons (sorry, I’m getting wound up just thinking about anyone that does this), then you will see why we want to help children have a better life. (Note: this is not always the case and is what we have been told by SENAME and orphanage workers over the years, not necessarily applicable to past or future adoptions, just some of the kids we’ve seen in the orphanages). I firmly believe that ANY parent (biological or not) that does this to a child is an asshole.
Is it difficult?
In a way it can be emotionally difficult. The first times we visited some of the homes before deciding to help with the adoption processes was very difficult and eye-opening. What SENAME officials tell us about different cases, not just the ones at hand, it can sometimes be a difficult experience for us.
But then there is when we actually visit an orphanage now. The first encounter between Parents and Child (in my experience so far) has been an emotionally wonderful moment. Though, the tough part is seeing the other kids that will remain behind. Once there was a young girl that was looking through the glass pane of the door with saddened eyes and I imagined that she was thinking… and me? What about me? Tough stuff!
Yes, we may find it difficult at times, but it is nothing compared to the suffering these children may have already been through.
Why don’t Chileans adopt them?
Usually because it is more snobby and “IN” to adopt from Haiti or something! AndesWines mentioned on twitter that there was a report about this on the 9 o’clock News the other night).
Having said that, there are many loving Chilean parents that adopt locally however they naturally tend to want newborns or children that are only a few months old. The older a child is, the harder it is for him or her to find a home. And once they are 5 or so, Chileans are normally not interested and the child is usually then stuck in the “system” until they are legally old enough to leave.
That is why by law international couples can only adopt Chilean children over the age of 5 (though most are 6 or 7). So it works out well. You may be surprised to know that most get adopted into Italy.
I admire Sename
Sename (Servicio Nacional de Menores) is the government organisation that takes care of everything to do with children in Chile (and not just adoptions). And I must say the adoption process side of Sename (can’t speak about the rest) is one slick mean machine. They know what they’re doing and they do it well, even to the point that foreign couples are even blown away about how well everything is organised.
The Tias from Iquique
I also admire the work the “Tias” do?
Tias literally means Aunts, though is what children often call women instead of their real name. Since I am a guy, I get called Tio, or Uncle!
Many of the “Tias” are volunteers and you can tell they genuinely love and care for the children at the orphanage. You can tell how attached they get to the children too with the flood of tears that come with the final goodbye. Remember that you need people there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, so some do long shifts and become very attached.
What can I say about the orphanages?
For some reason almost all international adoptions are of children from outside of Santiago (which is why I was recently in Iquique) though I have also visited ones in Santiago.
Yesterday I asked one of the ladies how their orphanage was financed.
She said they do get a small subsidy from the government for every child though I learnt (with a quick mental calculation) that it is not enough to cover their basic necessities, though, I suppose it is better than nothing.
80% of running costs come from donations from individuals, sometimes companies or fundraising campaigns they do during the year. (Nothing to do with the Teletón (Telethon) that rakes in millions of dollars every couple of years but only for children with disabilities and the Teletón staff)
If you consider the number of children at each orphanage and the amount of nappies (that’s diapers for you folks from up north) and tins of NAN milk (a special baby milk powder) they need, you can see that they require as much external support as possible.
The orphanage staff is not paid by the government. In Iquique, or at least at that home in particular, the YMCA helps pay the staff after doing fundraising events. In other cities I am not sure how it works. Sename do have paid government staff which visit the children including psychologists (that do an incredible job), so you can’t say the govt has left them to fend for themselves.
In Iquique the physical residence (a nice word used instead of orphanage) was one of the best I have seen in Chile, most likely because of donations from local mining companies (that have loads of dosh to throw around).
So that is what I have been doing in Iquique over the last week.
If you have any questions, let me know and I will see if we can answer them.
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Really interesting post, Rob. Thanks for sharing. I have a question. I once had a Chilean private student who had adopted twins. She said the process was extremely difficult and long. Is there separate processes for Chileans and foreigners? Could that be why Chileans don’t adopt as much within Chile? Or maybe she just had a special case, I don’t know.
I have no idea how long it takes to adopt a child from another country like Haiti though for Chile the process can be long and difficult easily taking a couple of years both for Chileans and foreigners, but mainly with the pre-adoption part. From what I understand the processes are very similar in that all adoptive parents, both local and foreign need to prove they are “worthy” or apt to being parents which involves psychological tests, financial statements etc. before the match-making begins. I think with foreigners it may take longer just because of the validations of documents in the home country (by the Chilean embassy) and then the official translations of all of the documents that are involved.
I think one of the reasons it may take a while is because SENAME does a great job matching the child with the parents. They don’t just quickly pick any kid and think, yeah, he’ll do. The same goes for the parents, not just any will do. Also SENAME looks at adoption as the last resort for the child, always trying to get one of the family members involved in looking after him or her.
What a wonderful story. I can only imagine how rewarding this must be for you, but difficult as well. Sad to hear that it’s more “IN” to adopt a child from Haiti. Also interesting to learn that most Chilean orphans go to Italy. We may adopt one day, but hadn’t considered Chile, until reading this.
Yes, one of the most rewarding things is seeing how well they are doing in their new country (we normally remain in contact with them).
We will be traveling to Chili this summer and I am interested in the possibility of adopting a child. We have 3 grown children (ages 18-21) and can provide an excellent home. Is there a great need for adoptive parents and how do I begin? Is there a place you recommend I go during our visit? Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Depending on which country you are from, you’d be best to contact your “Central Adoption Authority” in your own country to see what is required and whether it is possible (Chile only accepts adoptions from foreign countries that have signed the Hague Convention). The process is quite lengthy so don’t expect anything to happen when you come this summer. Most take at least 2 years. You may want to check out the Sename website mentioned in the article (using a translator if you don’t know Spanish) or one of the government accredited agencies in your country (if there are any).
Hello,
Our family has recently moved to Santiago from the States. We have been involved with an orphanage in the south of the city through the Christian & Missionary Alliance. I would love to speak with you personally about some questions I have regarding the government and it’s willingness to allow adoptions outside the country. Please contact me by cell at Personal Details Removed. Thanks so much!
If you are already in Santiago then I recommend talking to Sename who will be able to fill you in on all the details you need. Much more than anything we can do.
Hello, My husband and I are currently in the assessment phase of intercountry adoption (we are aussies) and we are hoping that we will be deemed acceptable to adopt from Chile. I stumbled across your site today and was relieved to hear that Sename runs like a slick machine. Although, we have also heard about the lengthy process once in Chile. I would be very interested in having further contact with you, as we have many questions to ask. With thanks!
Hi Vanessa and Chris,
I can see you have already been in contact with your Central Authority which is a good start.
I mentioned that Sename is a slick machine in that they are “On to it”, though you are right that the process can take a while once in Chile. That is more for the officialdom (and paperwork) done which do not involve Sename (though they do help to speed things up as much as possible where otherwise it would take an eternity).
Have you been in contact with CFO?
No we have not been in contact with CFO – do you suggest that we do? We are now probably only a few weeks away from finding out if we have been suitable to adopt from Chile and then (fingers crossed) we hope that a file will be sent to Chile in the next few months. The process seems to take so long – we wish it were quicker. But we understand that all needs to be done thoroughly. We keep hearing different time frames also – from 2 years to 4-5 years, which makes it hard. Would be very keen to remain in touch with you if possible. Vanessa and Chris
Hi vanessa and chris, I’m really intrested in knowing how things are going for you guys, we are just starting to think about adoption and are thinking about chile as a possibility. if you have any tips?
thanks
fatima
Bonjour,
je cherche à savoir sil me serait possible de travailler comme bénévole dans un orphelinat au Chili. Aurais tu des contacts pour moi?
Salut,
Nous ne pouvons pas organiser des bénévoles dans les orphelinats. Je sais qu’il est une agence française au Chili, qui permet l’adoption internationale. Vous devriez essayer de contacter Sename pour plus d’informations.
Kelley Galatoire.. and any further watchers, or QS.
Wondering why you have not, or why did you “did not first ” find out if your own country ( the states) has a agreement with Chile to allow any Adoptions to happen first.( if thats your intention) , you must realize this after all you say you are working in a Orphanage, you would ask them perhaps? and been told this.
If you have just moved to Chile and talking about Adoption, and not a resident,you still need to know and live by “your own countries laws for International Adoptions or any.( and Chile’s)”IF” you intend to take any child back to the USA .
Any QS interest to actual Adopt from Chile , your first port of call, you all will be directed straight to :
The Government Department (SENAME is linked with the Ministry of Education, who approves and administers ALL) adoptions). They can tell you what it is you need to be answered.
Its very strange some may think, you have tried to get someone to ring you? . You have the QS ring them.
Adopting from Chile.
If serious, and the States where you are from has any agreement with Chile, your own country you will of corse need to do Police Checks, Psych Evaluations done on you as individuals and as a couple, X3 references , and FULL financial details of you first, even if you pass ok, some may have a chance to Adopt, however even this won’t give certain chance to Adopt, as left to the judgement of Sename it self who they release thier children to.
And won’t matter if you call yourself Christian or what group you are link to, as many call themselves Christian to get what they want, but nothing like it.
You must of been married though for lest 2 yrs, ( unless in the case of any medical reason why you cannot have children) ( if you have already X3 or more children, SENAME will prefer couples with out any children often first over those that do have X3 or more, reason being they need any child needs to met with undivided attention from both new parents first) That makes sense.
( same sex couples cannot Adopt from Chile)
As fair for any child to have to the chance to a loving mother and a loving Father.
As Wood ward says here, they translates paper work and supports couples only.
These children are so vulnerable, and so need the Very best of homes,not just any home.
Thank you for your valuable input Anonymous.
A reminder for those that have read/will read this as you said:
We recommend that you contact SENAME for details on international adoption from Chile or the similar govt org in your country.
As Anonymous said, our role is to support the couples once they have the adoption approved and are in the country (Chile) and do most of the translations (both paperwork and in court).
Great article!! We are just about to start our home assessment with CYF and are at the stage where we need to “choose” a country which is really hard and it all comes down to the countries criteria which narrows down your options which in our case is Russia and Chile. Have you had much dealings with CFO (Compassion for Orphans) in Paraparaumu as they seem to be the only NZ agency that helps with Chile Adoptions and they were reluctant to give me any info on the Orphanages they deal with, my brother has been in Chile since February and is only there till August doing voluntary teach english to children and thought it would be nice if he could visit some of the Orphanages that CFO deal with? Also are sibling groups very common in Chile International Adoption and what would the common age span be? You’re doing an amazing job which sounds very rewarding keep up the great work!
Hi Charleen,
CFO is the organisation in NZ for Chile and we have worked with them for a number of years now. CFO doesn’t work with a/any specific orphanage in Chile, it has the accreditation/agreement with SENAME (Chilean govt) which decides which one the child will come from. This can mean any orphanage from throughout the country and so far they have been different every time. Your brother would need to contact SENAME directly if he would like to visit an orphanage.
Yes, sibling group adoptions seem to be common in Chile though we have also seen single child ones. Most of the children are 5-7 years of age.
Whichever country you decide, I recommend you learn as much of the language as possible before arriving in the Country.
Hope everything works out for you.
Saludos,
Rob W.
Charleen, your brother has probably already mentioned that he has met me. By coincidence we was studying at our Spanish School when he mentioned that you had read this! Small world!
Your Quote:
Yes you may help with the paper work, but some may feel you do nothing to help the Children’s, by name calling bio parents, calling them Assholes in your next paragraphs and comments ? why shout that?
Freedom of speech ok fine, but is not Freedom for others if they find out you shout out your insensitive opinions manner, this could only be seen as a bit self righteous. Also any Adopted Child/ren could read this, yes some can read English well after a while main thing how would they feel if searching for information come across this? ..the children simply need to move on with out predacious about their parents. no matter what back ground.
The Adopted parents are very well equipped and sensitive enough to know when the right time maybe to disclose such in formation, age appropriate etc.
Stop think: Any child that goes through a Adoption maybe obvious to a lot they would not have had the best parents, name calling does not help the Children.
People that do Adopt dont feel to be placed on pedestal either, they would hope their opinions like yours may simply not add anything. Anything you may feel you have read about the new parents child’s Dossier, is simply not for you to judge -:)
You are providing a valuable service, yes but anyone can get their paper work done my other accredited language bodies in SA, with out this hinting, as you then explain your ( privileged inside information , and to walk along side some that are so fortunate to Adopt)
Our hearts breaks to , as sad that the older children for what ever reasons, cannot find homes in their native country. Thus because they did have dysfunctional, and serious in need parents, bio parents, is the reason some are privilege to have the Blessings via Adoption.
A lot of parents are very imperfect…
Asking for sensitivity, not matter what your thoughts are thank you.
Our Hope is their will not be any lasting damage thus build bridges, than swear or write about their bio parents to others, nor do we ever discuss with any personal back ground in person on on line, just our way to protect our child’s best interests, we guess.
We don’t look back, we look forward,,,but one day the children as Adults,do have the right their own QS in a very sensitive manner, to help any further process of grief they may have…..
Take Care. Keep up the good work -:)
I’m sorry Anonymous but I maintain firm to what I say. Any parents that treat their kids in despicable/abusive/violent ways in my view will always be an asshole and it doesn’t matter whether they are the bio parents or not, including those that have nothing to do with Adoptions. The situations I mentioned are from what we have been told by government workers to orphanage workers over the years, not from dossiers we have read (where we never reveal their details).
I have expressed how I feel in a general way and that is why this post will be the one and only article that I will write about Adoption processes from Chile. I have no interest and will never go into specific details or talk about specific cases since that is not for me to do and inappropriate. So if I child does read this in the future they should understand that their case, and every case is different.
Charleen,
Can plainly see the theme is, no-one can go into any Orphanage in Chile unless they are police checked and any other checks required, and of course go through the Chilean Sename first.
Why you need your brother to find out about Orphanages, if its you thats applying in NZ to perhaps look at that country as a Option, you just have to know you are able pass all the hurdles first in the paperwork and acceptance, police checks and so on, if you may be accepted to Adopt from anywhere, as you no doubt are aware.
Have you gone through Adoption Option NZ. Will you place 1 set paperwork overseas say for a International Adoption, and one in NZ too?
My wife & I have two daughters we were lucky enough to bring home from China. The four of us would love to add another sister (or two) to our family. If matched, only one of us would be able to travel – is that OK ?
Also, how long of a stay can we expect ? Many thanks and great job with the site – KLM from Syracuse, NY